tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post3300065312607714194..comments2024-03-10T23:01:51.493-05:00Comments on Stupid Motivational Tricks / Bemsha Swing: Learning Styles (Not)Jonathanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09371893596402673898noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-34755281529368952242011-09-10T23:09:16.431-05:002011-09-10T23:09:16.431-05:00I have actually challenged them to do that. Most f...I have actually challenged them to do that. Most find they cannot but a couple did a good job. I got a nice painting / collage of Romance de la Luna, Luna ... a graphic novel of La noche boca arriba ... an accurate to period map of Luisito's wanderings through the Madrid of Miau ... and most amazingly, a tabloid broadsheet about the events in Luces de Bohemia. !!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-6290647367956457072011-09-02T11:20:04.947-05:002011-09-02T11:20:04.947-05:00Or you could require visual learner to turn in onl...Or you could require visual learner to turn in only elaborate drawings.Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09371893596402673898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-27595356887369462752011-09-02T07:38:20.270-05:002011-09-02T07:38:20.270-05:00I can do the same kind of thing. I can talk about ...I can do the same kind of thing. I can talk about anything I know without notes, develop a multi-part outline in my head and write it down later, etc... Not only that, the older I get the better I am at those things.Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09371893596402673898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-24513364068759110122011-09-02T02:10:48.440-05:002011-09-02T02:10:48.440-05:00Mais sérieusement. Most professors I ever had didn...Mais sérieusement. Most professors I ever had didn't use the board -- I mean, people teaching 1,000 students in lecture halls had visual aids, but most others just got up and talked; I took notes and learned to visualize; I now have a virtual blackboard in my head, high comprehension and recall of what people say, and the ability to speak without notes or almost without notes. If I'm Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-7403489027525122352011-08-31T18:46:49.629-05:002011-08-31T18:46:49.629-05:00I love your sarcasm.I love your sarcasm.Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09371893596402673898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-25947218263023253472011-08-31T17:42:16.800-05:002011-08-31T17:42:16.800-05:00What they mean specifically when they say they are...What they mean specifically when they say they are visual learners is that they do not look at the book or the course materials when not in class, and they want to be lectured at from the book, using slides of it.<br /><br />In math in college - calculus, differential equations, linear algebra - the professors taught that way. To me it seemed pointless since we had the textbook, so I didn't Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-8363493563397255872011-08-31T17:02:28.810-05:002011-08-31T17:02:28.810-05:00It's not visual v. auditory, those are just co...It's not visual v. auditory, those are just common examples of learning styles. The number of styles and their names just depends on what model you are using, and as I said, no one relies on only one style. It is also as much about how you need to process information as how it is presented. For example, to learn the information in a text, highlighting, reading aloud, recopying the passage,Shedding Khawatirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04643490050277557885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-74429079728998575122011-08-31T13:41:01.581-05:002011-08-31T13:41:01.581-05:00Also, is "visual" as in reading text the...Also, is "visual" as in reading text the same visual as in looking at images or film clips? Is auditory in watching film or listening to music the same as auditory in listening to a boring professor lecture?Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09371893596402673898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-44846608584156925732011-08-31T13:38:34.770-05:002011-08-31T13:38:34.770-05:00Good points. I think visual is almost the default...Good points. I think visual is almost the default now with the prevalence of evil powerpoints. Nobody talks about kinetic learning, for example, so the idea of a style gets reduced to a simplistic binary.Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09371893596402673898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-26008634424363285962011-08-31T13:32:05.555-05:002011-08-31T13:32:05.555-05:00But. Everyone seems to think it's visual vs. a...But. Everyone seems to think it's visual vs. auditory. I think that's terribly superficial. It doesn't address what Nicole and Maggie are talking about at all. <br /><br />I don't know that people teach the way they learn, I think they teach as they've been taught. I find it hard to believe that people who teach don't think about this, about communication, about audience, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-76136774372491474932011-08-31T12:16:43.478-05:002011-08-31T12:16:43.478-05:00That's a fair statement. I think what people ...That's a fair statement. I think what people object to is the sense of entitlement. When you tell someone s/he is a visual learner, or encourage someone to think in those terms, then it creates excuses. Almost all of us are visual to some extent; almost everyone has some capacity to learn through verbal instructions, etc... Mixing it up is good pedagogy simply because it reduces boredom Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09371893596402673898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-75024620977546199422011-08-31T12:11:16.299-05:002011-08-31T12:11:16.299-05:00They way I've heard it most often explained is...They way I've heard it most often explained is that there are different learning styles and individuals differ not in absolute style, but in the relative strength of these styles. So a visual learner can and does learn things in an auditory manner, they may just not be as strong at it. As Jonathan says, the important thing is to vary things in teaching and assessment so you are not favoringShedding Khawatirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04643490050277557885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-8916826219104830602011-08-31T01:20:50.563-05:002011-08-31T01:20:50.563-05:00I am sure there are different learning styles. I a...I am sure there are different learning styles. I am sure mine are strange. But that's *my* responsibility, it seems to me, not the "teacher's."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-42970239155599768042011-08-30T19:41:59.164-05:002011-08-30T19:41:59.164-05:00From what I got from the NPR story (I haven't ...From what I got from the NPR story (I haven't done any more research on this), it isn't that people don't have different learning styles, it's that we don't actually know whether or not people have different learning styles because all the work is theoretical and none of it empirical.<br /><br />I will say that I have in my life had a couple of students who would be termed &Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-27829276314520182092011-08-30T15:51:19.881-05:002011-08-30T15:51:19.881-05:00That's why you have different professors. If y...That's why you have different professors. If you have a "learning style" and know it, then use that to come up with ways of studying, not as an excuse not to work in all courses.<br /><br />Whether or not I personally accommodate the alleged visual learners who abound totally depends on whether I have a smart room or money / time / patience to make slides and stuff or not. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-4969153091516688702011-08-30T11:59:38.147-05:002011-08-30T11:59:38.147-05:00The idea is not to do all of one thing that favors...The idea is not to do all of one thing that favors only one kind of learner, mixing it up as it were. Some subject matters, however, are inherently visual (art history?) so there are limits to how much you could accomodate, even if it were a valid concept.Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09371893596402673898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-45833629997551013322011-08-30T11:27:37.853-05:002011-08-30T11:27:37.853-05:00Even if there was scientific evidence behind the i...Even if there was scientific evidence behind the idea of "learning styles", I never understood how you are supposed to cater to all the different learning styles you "supposedly" have in a classroom. I guess this type of things is one of the reasons why I dislike teaching methodology classes so much in grad school.Spanish profhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248530328973177920noreply@blogger.com