tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post2949602392670162636..comments2024-03-10T23:01:51.493-05:00Comments on Stupid Motivational Tricks / Bemsha Swing: Poet VoiceJonathanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09371893596402673898noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-64841780485317691782022-06-18T10:42:21.801-05:002022-06-18T10:42:21.801-05:00How would you recommend working on the skill of re...How would you recommend working on the skill of reciting poetry, and how would this vary across the languages that you know? How does one cultivate the discernment to come up with a spoken pattern that is responsive to the particular prosodic, syntactic and semantic (etc.) features of a given poem? Are there any resources on this subject that you could recommend?<br /><br />Granted this is an Y. Smerdishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05978084402104136244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-28551334295464061452014-04-17T14:29:11.829-05:002014-04-17T14:29:11.829-05:00What do you think of this:
"Ladies and Gentl...What do you think of this:<br /><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrHxc8XlaZw" rel="nofollow">"Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. Leonard Cohen"</a> begins with a really entertainingly performed story. (The narrator even has say "He is not primarily a standup comic.") But then he performs <a href="http://youtu.be/IrHxc8XlaZw?t=4m55s" rel="nofollow">"Prayer for MessiahThomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04858865501469168339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-49571575328613867182014-04-17T14:13:59.288-05:002014-04-17T14:13:59.288-05:00Jorie Graham does it
https://www.youtube.com/wat...Jorie Graham does it <br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj3te7R2n9I<br /><br />Go to 34:40. <br /><br />a MAN aBOUT to EAT his MORNing's SLICE / who SITS. <br /><br />Every capitalized syllable is at the exact same pitch! So the iambic rhythm is emphasized, yes, but at the expense of any speech rhythm. Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09371893596402673898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-61771437791841270302014-04-17T14:09:29.924-05:002014-04-17T14:09:29.924-05:00Yes, the demand that the composition be effective ...Yes, the demand that the composition be effective in performance does not mean that the composer should have to a good performer.<br /><br />Here's one: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Orar-V3y5Sk" rel="nofollow">Allen Ginsberg reading "America"</a>, but you think to yourself he should have let Lenny Bruce do it.Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04858865501469168339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-52117049776510624602014-04-17T14:01:11.685-05:002014-04-17T14:01:11.685-05:00I don't think I can perform my poetry optimall...I don't think I can perform my poetry optimally, but I think I could teach an actor to do so. <br /><br />The Berryman is interesting: I've never heard him. It is bad but oddly appropriate. It is stilted, but not in the sing-song way. Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09371893596402673898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-78096613217898441632014-04-17T13:55:11.339-05:002014-04-17T13:55:11.339-05:00What's your sense of the status of that ideolo...What's your sense of the status of that ideology (caring about the sonic reality of a poem) today? How many poets write their poems with the same awareness of voice that, say, John Berryman <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpimsgfNj7c" rel="nofollow">seems to have had</a>.<br /><br />We can argue about how good the performance is, and compare him to Pound and Stevens, but I think in Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04858865501469168339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-1362567977486192072014-04-17T13:33:43.466-05:002014-04-17T13:33:43.466-05:00Then a significant part of the ideology of poetry ...Then a significant part of the ideology of poetry would have to be sacrificed. We no longer care about the sonic reality of the poem! It would be a great liberation for some poets who never cared about it, or who are tired of pretending that their poems have an effective existence in performance. Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09371893596402673898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-13578253495133639062014-04-17T02:41:24.032-05:002014-04-17T02:41:24.032-05:00I think Mairead Byrne got it right when she sugges...I think Mairead Byrne got it right when she suggested poems should be performed more <a href="http://www.ubu.com/papers/byrne_poetry_standup.pdf" rel="nofollow">like standup comedy</a>. As an alternative, I suggested reading them off <a href="http://pangrammaticon.blogspot.dk/2007/09/on-possiblity-of-stand-up-poetry.html" rel="nofollow">tele-prompters like newsanchors</a>.<br /><br />I mean this Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04858865501469168339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1055932257464975902.post-64830821856116412642014-04-16T20:58:24.329-05:002014-04-16T20:58:24.329-05:00I really dislike that way of reading. It is done t...I really dislike that way of reading. It is done to signify that what one is hearing is a poem and that the person reading has an MFA, or something like that. Dull, though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com